Posts by Juan Viejo2

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Is "Kingdumb Hall" really an offensive term?

by cyberjesus in

if a friend of mine starts to say things out of emotion and i call him "schizophrenic" then that might be an insult.

however if he is having auditory hallucinations, paranoid or bizarre delusions, or disorganized speech and thinking then that word becomes a description of his situation.. now i ask you.

does the attendance to the kh promote intelligence?

Juan Viejo2

I think there is a time and a place for everything - even a little ridiculous name calling on occasion - depending upon who might become offended. I'm not likely to say, "How's the weather up there, fat boy?" to Shaquille O'Neal. Nope, not appropriate and possibly very dangerous. My medical insurance would probably not cover my expenses for those injuries.

As an editor of a website that criticizes the Watchtower Society, but not individual JWs (unless they happen to be part of that seven man rotation in Patterson or a historical member of the Society), I want to draw in and welcome as many current, recently past, and hopefully wavering JWs that I can. Calling them names, making fun of their magazines and buildings - unless done in something that is clearly supposed to be parody or satire - will chase them away and brand me and my website as "anti-Christian" or "anti-Jehovah," which is not the case.

So here, yes, we should all be used to the funny names and the often biting, harsh, and well-written humor we find here. JWs who come here to find support for anything the Watchtower teaches or supports have come to the wrong place. If they're going to be offended by a few funny names for their ridiculous cult, they deserve to go away and hide from reality and live their miserable lives unloved and unwanted - and without a smile on their face.

JV

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New ex-JW memoir coming out...

by brizzzy in

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i don't post a ton here because i'm kinda shy.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/0373892357?tag=thegirsguitoh-20&camp=14573&creative=327641&linkcode=as1&creativeasin=0373892357&adid=038ez4bjpam7bcsze5mq&.

that's the amazon link (which is currently the most affordable, i believe, but it's also available for preorder at b&n, borders, indiebound, and indigo-chapters if you're in canada, if you prefer one of those retailers).. .

Juan Viejo2

brizzzy - congratulations on your new book. Also you have a PM...

JV

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A roaring current of change.... Is The Watchtower in the process of a major overhaul of their religion?

by koolaid-man in

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a roaring current of change..... what is going on at the world headquarters of jehovah's witnesses?

in the last couple of years unprecedented changes in policy, procedure, and doctrine have been coming forth in rapid fire sequence.

this uninterrupted episode of new information is beginning to backfire for the rank and file witnesses.

Juan Viejo2

OTWO - No, it's OK. Rick can advertise his phone program. It's always fun to listen to - at least part of it.

On condition though -

NO JOHNNIE THE BETHELITE! Please, Rick, give us a break...

JV

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What do you think 2012 Convention theme will be?

by Iamallcool in

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Juan Viejo2

"The Mayans had it right! Check your calendars," saith Jehovah.

JV

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Content is King- Why the Meetings Fail

by LostGeneration in

one of the big sayings for those that run websites is that "content is king" it makes perfect sense, as sites like this one have entertaining content for the targeted audience.

even better, more content is added everyday bringing users back repeatedly.

poptular tv shows and movies are loved because they entertain customers for a low cost or free.. on the other hand, you have the content provided by the watchtower bible and tract society, delivered though the pages of the watchtower and through weekly meetings.

Juan Viejo2

As a kid, I can remember how my butt would go to sleep sitting on those metal and wood fold-down theater seats the KH had salvaged somewhere. In the summer, it would get so hot, especially in the early evening (Riverside, CA could get up to 105-110F in the summer) and we'd all be sitting there sweating and fanning and panting and squirming as we waited for the moment that we would be dismissed so that we could get outside and into the fresh air.

I was too young to realize how good we had it in those days. We had a couple of brothers that could prepare and give Sunday public talk that were actually very interesting and kept your attention. But most were just given in a monotone-read-from-a-script-I-wrote-last-night-at-the-last-minute-after-Palladin-and-Joe-Friday-were-over-on-the-TV.

The best ever was when a brother from another congregation gave a talk that was entitled something like "Why does mankind face death?" (about Adam's sin and Ransom), but got up and started talking about 1914, the world wars, and Armageddon. At first, no one noticed and just went along with the talk. After 15-minutes or so, the Congregation Servant got up and walked up on stage and whispered something in the brother's ear. After a few seconds of page flipping and nervous coughing, the CongServ made an announcement that the speaker had brought the outline for another talk about Armageddon and the New Earth. So at that point, the CongServ said that the handbills for the talk "were printed in error." So the brother picked up where he left off and finished his talk.

I doubt that anyone would even notice anymore -since most "public" talks cover the same 5 or 6 subjects almost verbatim from prepared outlines. They sure aren't the recruitment tools they were originally designed to be.

JV

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Content is King- Why the Meetings Fail

by LostGeneration in

one of the big sayings for those that run websites is that "content is king" it makes perfect sense, as sites like this one have entertaining content for the targeted audience.

even better, more content is added everyday bringing users back repeatedly.

poptular tv shows and movies are loved because they entertain customers for a low cost or free.. on the other hand, you have the content provided by the watchtower bible and tract society, delivered though the pages of the watchtower and through weekly meetings.

Juan Viejo2

LostGeneration - you have a PM!

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News on Prince

by blondie in

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will prince and ballerina live happily ever after?by c.j., star tribune.

last update: february 19, 2011 - 11:14 pm.

0diggsdiggmore from c.j.prince has a new love interest, a ballerina, who is being described as "his first sister since sheila e"bymediatakeout.comif misty copeland, of american ballet theatre fame, is really prince's new lady, the first thing that i noticed is that she's a baby.

Juan Viejo2

I suggest you float over to YouTube and check out the Kevin Smith videos where he talks about his encounter with Prince. Total crackup!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy_cLJ19HMg

You'll learn more about Prince than you'll ever want to know...

JV

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Scans of Golden Age, grape cure articles

by FatFreek 2005 in

does anyone have scans of certain golden age magazines?

specifically, i'm looking for the following articles:.

"the ehret system of elimination", golden age, march 20, 1929, p.

Juan Viejo2

I have a CD that has all of the pubs from 1920 to 1942. I'm not sure if the '29 Consolation you want is on there, but I'll look if you don't find it anywhere else. At the moment it is in my attic and inaccessible due to construction work going on in my house. Give me a week or two and if you don't find it, send me a PM and I'll try to retrieve it for you.

JV

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This Guy Nails It on 1975

by Perry in

i was 12 years old in 1975. for years before then, i believed that i was a bad child and would not live to see my 13th birthday.

i remember that starting around january 1976, i didn't believe a word anyone said, especially an adult, my parents, much less the elders.

i do not remember much of my teen years.

Juan Viejo2

MrFreeze is exactly right. At every meeting - at every assembly - at every convention - it was always "1975 will be a most significant year in human history..."

The only thing they weren't sure about was the actual month and day that Armageddon would come that year. Fred Franz was actively supporting, and on more than one occasion, suggested October. For some reason, October seems to be the charmed month in JW mythology (October, 1914, etc.) I think it has something to do with the Jewish calendar.

One issue that has been mentioned before, but is mostly ignored, is that Jewish years were 360 days long (they were lunar years). But JWs (and most apocalyptic religions) are totally comfortable using the current 365.25 day year as a replacement. So is "70 weeks of years" 360 or 365.25 days long? The Watchtower's leaders have just ignored that question and pretend it has no import.

JV

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New Health Worker Rules

by Juan Viejo2 in

the obama administration on friday (2/18/2011) eliminated key provisions of a george w. bush-era rule that allowed health workers to opt out of medical services they find objectionable on religious or personal grounds.

the rule was widely interpreted as allowing workers to refuse to participate in a range of services, including providing the emergency contraceptive plan b and treating gays and lesbians.

the new rule leaves intact previously established "conscience protections" for workers who do not want to perform abortions or sterilizations.

Juan Viejo2

The Obama administration on Friday (2/18/2011) eliminated key provisions of a George W. Bush-era rule that allowed health workers to opt out of medical services they find objectionable on religious or personal grounds. The rule was widely interpreted as allowing workers to refuse to participate in a range of services, including providing the emergency contraceptive Plan B and treating gays and lesbians.

The new rule leaves intact previously established "conscience protections" for workers who do not want to perform abortions or sterilizations. It also retains the Bush rule's formal process for allowing workers whose rights are violated to file complaints.

http://link.email.washingtonpost.com/r/PSLW3N/LQRYIM/7W9QMC/ZYE3Q0/M0MSX/RF/h

I wonder how this will apply to JWs who are nurses and doctors and have to participate in operations where blood transfusions are necessary.